Classical Numismatic Group > Triton XXVIAuction date: 10 January 2023
Lot number: 1141

Price realized: 15,000 USD   (Approx. 13,982 EUR)   Note: Prices do not include buyer's fees.
Lot description:


PERU, Colonial. Felipe V. King of Spain, first reign, 1700-1724. AV 8 Escudo (29mm, 26.81 g, 9h). Lima mint. Dated 1712 L M. Coat-of-arms / Crowned pillars of Hercules set on ocean waves. Calicó 438; KM 38.2; Friedberg 7. Deposits, water worn. VF.

From the S & S Collection. Likely ex 1715 'Plate Fleet' Wreck.

The earliest reference to the eight escudo coin is from 14 June 1587, when Spanish king Philip II visited the new Segovia mint, and the piece certainly saw major production by 1611. This should not be surprising – with the vast amounts of precious metals pouring out of the Spanish colonies in the New World, larger denominations were then in vogue, leading to the creation of not only a vast, crown-sized coinage in silver (eight reales), but in gold as well. In fact, though it was first created in Spain, the eight escudos was actually struck in much greater numbers in the Americas.



Though formally termed an eight escudo piece, the colloquial names of this coin developed in a confusing manner. As the weight of the piece was set at 27.069 grams, just a few tenths of a gram shy of an eighth of the Castilian mark, the coin became known as an onza in Europe. Sharing the name with both the coin and the weight led to some misunderstandings in the official records.



A second colloquial name, more popular in the Americas, took an even more convoluted route. When the first excelente, a coin bearing the confronted portraits of the two monarchs, was produced under Ferdinand and Isabella, any Spanish gold coin could be broadly referred to as a dobla, from the old Arabic double dinar. As the new excelente weighed twice that, it was termed a doblón, or double dobla. This coin was equivalent to a two-escudo piece, and when the four escudo was struck, it took the name doblón de a cuatro. The eight escudo thus became the doblón de a ocho – "double double of eight." In English-speaking America, this was abbreviated to simply "doubloon."

Estimate: 5000 USD

Match 1:
Classical Numismatic Group > Triton XXVIAuction date: 10 January 2023
Lot number: 1142

Price realized: 12,000 USD   (Approx. 11,185 EUR)   Note: Prices do not include buyer's fees.
Lot description:


PERU, Colonial. Felipe V. King of Spain, first reign, 1700-1724. AV 8 Escudo (30mm, 27.05 g, 5h). Lima mint. Dated 1718 L M. Coat-of-arms / Crowned pillars of Hercules set on ocean waves. Calicó 454; KM 38.2; Friedberg 7. Good VF.

From the DMS Collection, purchased from J. Kern, 2010. Likely ex 1715 'Plate Fleet' Wreck.


Estimate: 6000 USD

Match 2:
Classical Numismatic Group > Triton XXVIAuction date: 10 January 2023
Lot number: 1143

Price realized: 12,000 USD   (Approx. 11,185 EUR)   Note: Prices do not include buyer's fees.
Lot description:


PERU, Colonial. Felipe V. King of Spain, second reign, 1724-1746. AV 8 Escudo (34mm, 26.95 g, 12h). Lima mint. Dated (1)727 L M. Coat-of-arms / Crowned pillars of Hercules set on ocean waves. Calicó 580; KM 38.2. In NGC encapsulation 6458806-002, graded MS 61. Struck on a broad flan.


Estimate: 10000 USD

Match 3:
Classical Numismatic Group > Electronic Auction 532Auction date: 8 February 2023
Lot number: 828

Price realized: 180 USD   (Approx. 168 EUR)   Note: Prices do not include buyer's fees.
Lot description:


MEXICO, Colonial. Felipe V. King of Spain, first reign, 1700-1724. AR 8 Reales (40mm, 26.01 g, 8h). Cob issue. Mexico City mint. Struck circa 1715. Crowned coat-of-arms; [Mo/J to left] / Arms of Spain within angled quatrelobe. Menzel Mx-275; BW 11.4; KM 24. Toned, date off flan. Near VF.

From the MWF Collection. Ex Classical Numismatic Group 29 (30 March 1994), lot 1472. Likely ex 1715 Plate Fleet.


Estimate: 200 USD

Match 4:
Classical Numismatic Group > Electronic Auction 532Auction date: 8 February 2023
Lot number: 829

Price realized: 160 USD   (Approx. 149 EUR)   Note: Prices do not include buyer's fees.
Lot description:


MEXICO, Colonial. Felipe V. King of Spain, first reign, 1700-1724. AR 8 Reales (30mm, 24.88 g, 7h). Cob issue. Mexico City mint. Struck circa 1715. Crowned coat-of-arms; [Mo/J to left] / Arms of Spain within angled quatrelobe. Menzel Mx-275; BW 11.4; KM 24. Toned, date off flan. Near VF.

From the MWF Collection, purchased from Sedgwick, January 1994. Likely ex 1715 Plate Fleet.


Estimate: 200 USD

Match 5:
Classical Numismatic Group > Electronic Auction 532Auction date: 8 February 2023
Lot number: 775

Price realized: 275 USD   (Approx. 256 EUR)   Note: Prices do not include buyer's fees.
Lot description:


BOLIVIA, Colonial (as Alto Perú). Carlos II. King of Spain, 1665-1700. AR 8 Reales (39mm, 24.22 g, 10h). Cob issue. Potosí mint. Dated (16)86 P (VR). Quartered arms within polylobe; assayer initials across fields / Crowned Pillars of Hercules set on ocean waves. Menzel Po-312; KM (M) 26. Toned, double struck. VF.

From the MWF Collection. Ex Classical Numismatic Group 29 (30 March 1994), lot 1341.


Estimate: 200 USD